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Shank Stephens, riding for Oklahoma Panhandle State University several years ago, competes at Hitch Arena during the Doc Gardner Memorial Rodeo, which takes place Thursday-Saturday in Guymon. (PHOTO BY DALE HIRSCHMAN)   GUYMON, Okla. – When Dusty Moore and Paul Peterson return to town, they’ll have a lot going on. They are two of the three pickup men who will work the annual Guymon Pioneer Days Rodeo, set for 7:30 p.m. Friday, May 1; 2 and 7:30 p.m. Saturday, May 2; and 2 p.m. Sunday, May 3, at Henry C. Hitch Pioneer Arena. They’re also alumni of the Oklahoma Panhandle State University rodeo team. “It’s pretty cool that we have two of our alumni here for the ProRodeo,” said Shelbie Rose, Panhandle State’s rodeo coach. “The same kind of thing happens at our college rodeo. If the kids want to pick up during the year at practice, they usually get to pick up at the college rodeo, too.” Pickup men are typically some of the most versatile cowboys. They know how to read livestock, and they’re horsemanship and roping skills are valuable. They can be called on to rescue another cowboy out of a wreck or handle any of the many other duties that come their way. For decades, the Panhandle State rodeo team has been training great cowboys and cowgirls. The program boasts of seven national team titles and 22 individual champions. The program will host its annual event – the Doc Gardner Memorial Rodeo – from Thursday-Saturday at Hitch Arena. “The community we have is very vital,” Rose said. “Without it, there would be no Panhandle State rodeo team. It’s not just Goodwell, and it’s not just Guymon. It’s not even just Texas County. Our community is pretty broad, probably the whole Panhandle of Oklahoma and some of Texas, and it reaches a lot further than that.” The Panhandle State program and the Pioneer Days Rodeo volunteer committee have come to realize not only the community support but also the benefit they have in collaborating with one another. “I think the two go hand-in-hand,” said Ken Stonecipher, the committee’s chairman. “We can’t do this without them, and that’s not an exaggeration. They come during slack, sort cattle, load cattle, untie calves. The committee has some folks there, too, but without them, we’re not getting that all done.” The two entities share more than the arena. They share a passion for the sport, and they work closely together to ensure greatness happens for two weeks every spring. This first week belongs to the roughly 500 intercollegiate cowboys and cowgirls, and next week is the return of favor for when more than 1,000 ProRodeo contestants. “The Guymon ProRodeo committee has been absolutely great to us,” Rose said. “It’s a blessing to have our rodeo right before theirs. It allows us to share equipment and bulldogging cattle. They’ve helped us with roping chutes over the past several years. They always show up to our fundraisers. They buy ads to support our rodeo. “They’re a very big part of what we do.” The same can be said of the rodeo program’s work with the PRCA event. Competition for the ProRodeo begins two days after the championship round of the college rodeo and lasts for seven days. Panhandle State contestants and coaches are on hand through the duration. “I’ve known Shelbie since she was a student on the Panhandle State team, and she has an unmatched work ethic,” Stonecipher said. “You cannot outwork her. From the practice pen to fundraising to building new barns for the kids’ horses, she’s out there. “When student athletes come to college, they all don’t have the same amount of natural talent, but the thing that overcomes that difference in talent is hard work. Shelbie is a great person to lead that effort.” Pioneer Days Rodeo will certainly have a Panhandle State flair. Whether it’s the pickup men or student helpers or alumni riding broncs, the university’s reflection is seen throughout the seven-day rodeo. With 10 days of competition at Hitch Arena between the two events, Guymon becomes Rodeo Town. “Rodeo is a way of life out here,” Rose said. “Most of the people around here are tied to agriculture in some way, so rodeo is naturally a favorite sport. At the college, the rodeo program, by far, has had the most success. It’s a great place to have a rodeo program, because we have a lot of support. “It’s a staple around here, and people that aren’t from an ag background have really grown to love it because it’s one of the best things that happens around here.”

Northwestern Oklahoma State Univerity freshman Riley Smith grabbled the steer wrestling title for the Rangers this past weekend at the Fort Hays (Kansas) State Rodeo. It was his first intercollegiate title. (PHOTO BY DALE HIRSCHMAN)   ALVA, Okla. – Riley Smith’s rodeo resume looks like an octopus’ arms. He’s a bronc rider, a team roper, a steer wrestler and a tie-down roper for Northwestern Oklahoma State University. He might be one of the busiest cowboys at any intercollegiate rodeo. The kicker? He wasn’t even raised in a rodeo family. “My grandpa team roped a little bit,” he said. “Ever since I’ve started, I’ve worked both ends of the arena and tried to do as many events as I could. I just enjoy doing all of it, and I think it helps be to be able to go to a rodeo and if one thing doesn’t go well, then I have another even that I can try to make up for it.” He more than made up for it this past weekend, winning the Fort Hays (Kansas) State University rodeo’s steer wrestling title. He dropped his first steer in 4.7 seconds to finish in a three-way tie for second place, then stopped the clock in 5.3 seconds to finish fourth in the championship round. His two-run cumulative time of 10.0 seconds was just enough for the outright victory. “I do all the events, but steer wrestling is definitely my top priority,” said Smith, a freshman from Poteau, Oklahoma. “I knew I wanted to go to a school where I was going to grow with that. I looked at a couple of schools that were closer to my home in southeast Oklahoma. “But I came up here and saw what they had, and I really liked it. I thought it would be a good group of people to be around to help me get better and push me.” It must be working. The Rangers had five bulldoggers in the Fort Hays State short round, and all gathered points. Nathan Duvall of Henryetta, Oklahoma, finished third; Tydon Tsosie of Crownpoint, New Mexico, was fourth; Sam Daly of Tryon, Nebraska, was sixth; and Hazen Sparks of Talihina, Oklahoma, joined Smith in that three-way tie for runner-up in the opening round. In the Central Plains Region standings, Duvall leads the charge with 735 points. Tsosie is second, 170 points behind. Four more Rangers bulldoggers are among the top 10. Smith, who sits eighth, has a legitimate chance to move up in the points race during the final rodeo of the region’s season this coming weekend in Guymon, Oklahoma. “That would mean a lot,” said Smith, who recognized a lot of things must go right if he were to finish among the top three and advance to the College National Finals Rodeo. “That’s been my goal since I came here. I had to send my bulldogging horse home at the start of this semester because she got hurt, and it’s been rough just trying to get some practice runs in and trying to get a horse I can get a feel for.” He’s found it in Daly’s Rogue, an 11-year-old sorrel gelding. The combination of a trusted stead and all-around athleticism worked in Smith’s favor. “I’m just grateful for the opportunity, and coming to college has been a lot of fun and been a lot of help in my events because I’ve had a lot of resources and a lot of supportive people,” he said. “I think I drew good, and I also rode Sam Daly’s bulldogging horse. He gave me a good opportunity to do my job. After I sent my bulldogging horse home, I’ve been mounting out on other people’s horses, and Sam was nice enough to let me ride his and haze for me as well.” That’s teamwork at its finest. “I’m really excited for Riley to get his first college rodeo win under his belt,” coach Cali Griffin said, pointing out that assistant coach Emmett Edler has been an asset. “Emmett’s been doing a great job in the practice pen with the guys, and I think it shows in the standings as well as individual rodeo placings. “Riley is a great kid who works hard in multiple events for us. I’m glad to see his hard work is paying off.” The Rangers had several others in the championship round at Hays, including tie-down roper Kerry Duvall of Oakdale, California, who finished sixth. Bleu Hall of Okmulgee, Oklahoma, led the way for the Rangers women, placing sixth in both breakaway roping and goat-tying. Maggie King of Granville, New York, scored a tie for third place in the opening round of goats. Joining Hall in the breakaway finale were Payton Dingman of Pryor, Oklahoma, who earned the most points, and Savannah Greenfield of Lakeview, Oregon, who also earned a short-round bid by winning the first round of team roping with teammate Grady Aasby of Highmore, South Dakota. Dingman placed in both rounds and finished second in breakaway roping. The tandem of Greenfield and Aasby weren’t the only Rangers in the short-round field of team ropers. Y’Leigh Yarbrough of Cheyenne, Oklahoma, and John Harrell of Sperry, Oklahoma, placed in the first round. Header Carter Anderson of Merriman, Nebraska, placed in the finale and average while roping with James Drueke of Southwestern Oklahoma State University. Header Kendyll Miller of Hennessey, Oklahoma, made the short round with Cole Beasley of Southeastern Oklahoma State University. With just one rodeo remaining, there are several Rangers fighting to finish among the top three to advance to Casper, Wyoming, in June. Dingman is second in goat-tying; Miller and Brylee Zook of Garnett, Kansas, are in the mix in breakaway roping; Anderson has an outside shot in tie-down roping; and Colter Snook of Ford, Kansas, is third in heeling. Duvall and Tsosie are locked into their steer wrestling qualifications to the college finals, but there are three other Northwestern cowboys in the hunt: Edler, a graduate student from State Center, Iowa,  Continue Reading »

Bareback riding rookie Toby Deudney picked up the biggest win of his career after scoring 93 points on Pickett Pro Rodeo’s Night Crawler to claim the San Angelo Cinch Chute-Out title. (PHOTO BY JENNINGS RODEO PHOTOGRAPHY)   SAN ANGELO, Texas – Toby Deudney isn’t just carrying the Australian flag as he rides bucking horses in the United States. He’s trying to create something back home while competing 8,500 miles away. He crossed a hemisphere and the Pacific Ocean to live out his dreams. “There’s not very many bareback riders in Australia,” said Deudney, 20, of Tumut, New South Wales. “I’m hoping to build a legacy for bareback riders in Australia so we can have some more. I’m hoping everyone at home can look and think, ‘OK, we’re from Australia, but we can make it.’ ” Deudney is making it so far. He arrived in the United States two and a half years ago. On Saturday night, he scored the biggest ride – and the biggest win – of his young career during Saturday’s San Angelo Cinch Chute-Out. The driving force was his dance partner, Pickett Pro Rodeo’s Night Crawler, the 2023 and ’24 PRCA Bareback Horse of the Year. The match-up was worth 93 points. “I had some nerves, but I was really excited,” said Deudney, who attends Odessa (Texas) College and sits No. 2 in the Caprock Region’s bareback riding standings. “It was just a blas the whole time. “This will be one to remember.” The Aussie entered the weekend No. 6 in the Resistol Bareback Riding Rookie of the Year Race. The $7,500 he earned in San Angelo will move him into the top five. He is not among the top 50 in the world standings, but he will be next week. “It’s been kind of a rough year,” he said. “I’m just trying to build on it. I bought my card, because I thought it was time. Well, it’s time. I guess that was just the right time, and now I’m just going to build it from there.” Night Crawler is an electric bay that has been featured in the “TV pen” of bareback horses at the National Finals Rodeo. Deudney was the first contestant out in the championship round, setting the tone early. He’d like that to continue so he can join the Pickett horse in Las Vegas soon. The last Australian bareback rider to make it to the NFR was Jamie Howlett. The 35-year-old from Roma, Queensland, qualified in 2020. “I’m planning on making them yellow bucking chutes,” Deudney said. “I hope to be a world champion.” Other winners were steer wrestler Tyler Waguespack (3.9 seconds); tie-down roper Tom Crouse, who won the tie-breaker with Kyle Lucas, (7.5 seconds); barrel racer Jana Bean (14.35 seconds); team ropers Nelson Wyatt/Jonathan Torres (16.1 seconds); saddle bronc rider Blake Steuck (88 points on J Bar J Rodeo’s Straight Moonshine); and bull rider Tristen Hutchings (86.5 points on Pete Carr Pro Rodeo’s Bone Tomahawk in the first round; none of the bull riders had qualified rides in the chute-out round). San Angelo Stock Show and Rodeo Cinch Chute-Out April 18 Bareback riding: First round: 1. Keenan Hayes, 93 points on Pete Carr Pro Rodeo’s Nite Faded; 2. Brayze Schill, 90; 3. Toby Deudney, 88. Championship: 1. Toby Deudney, 93 points on Pickett Pro Rodeo’s Night Crawler, $7,500; 2. Brayze Schill, 90.5, $3,000; 3. Keenan Hayes, 87, $2,000. Steer wrestling: First round: 1. Jesse Brown, 3.5 seconds; 2. Tyler Waguespack, 4.1; 3. Ty Erickson, 4.3. Championship: 1. Tyler Waguespack, 3.9 seconds, $7,500; 2. Ty Erickson, 4.3, $3,000; 3. Jesse Brown, no time. Tie-down roping: First round: 1. Kincade Henry, 8.8 seconds; 2. Tom Crouse, 8.9; 3. Kyle Lucas, 9.1. Championship: 1. (tie) Tom Crouse and Kyle Lucas, 7.5 seconds, $5,250 each; 3. Kincade Henry, 9.4, $2,000. Crouse wins tie-breaker. Saddle bronc riding: First round: 1. (tie) Blake Steuck, on Pete Carr Pro Rodeo’s Chilly Winds, and Coleman Shallbetter, on Pete Carr Pro Rodeo’s Stockyards Babe, 87 points; 3. (tie) Roper Kiesner and Damian Brennan, 86.5. Championship: 1. Blake Steuck, 88 points on J Bar J Rodeo’s Straight Moonshine, $7,500; 2. Coleman Shallbetter, 87.5, $3,000; 3. Roper Kiesner, 77, $2,000; Team roping: First round: 1. Nelson Wyatt/Jonathan Torres, 3.8 seconds; 2. Tanner Tomlinson/Coleby Payne, 4.0; 3. Kaleb Driggers/Junior Nogueira, 4.1. Championship: 1. Nelson Wyatt/Jonathan Torres, 16.1 seconds; 2. (tie) Kaleb Driggers/Junior Nogueira and Tanner Tomlinson, Coleby Payne, no time. Barrel racing: 1. Jana Bean, 14.48 seconds; 2. Taylor Baize, 14.51; 3. Brittany Pozzi Tonozzi, 14.55. Championship: 1. Jana Bean, 14.35 seconds, $2,000; 2. Taylor Baize, 14.42, $1,250; 3. Brittany Pozzi Tonozzi, 19.53, $250. Bull riding: First round: 1. Tristen Hutchings, 86.5 points on Pete Carr Pro Rodeo’s Bone Tomahawk; 2. Sage Vance, 85.5; 3. Jhett Wheeler, 81.  Championship: 1. (tie) Sage Vance, Tristen Hutchings and Jhett Wheeler, 0, $4,167 each.

Sam Lewis, a member of the Angelo State University rodeo team, ropes his calf during an 8.8-second run during Friday’s championship round to win the tie-down roping title at the San Angelo Stock Show and Rodeo. (PHOTO BY JENNINGS RODEO PHOTOGRAPHY)   SAN ANGELO, Texas – Sam Lewis is building a resume based on a solid foundation. He’s the 20-year-old son of Brent Lewis, an 11-time tie-down roping qualifier to the National Finals Rodeo. He’s also on the rodeo team at Angelo State University, the No. 2 man in the Lone Star Region tie-down roping standings. Sam Lewis a key component of coach Casey Sisk’s program, one of a couple of cowboys who will compete for the Rams at the College National Finals Rodeo in June at Casper, Wyoming. On Friday night, he collected the biggest ProRodeo win of his career by winning the championship round of the San Angelo Stock Show and Rodeo with an 8.8-second run. That propelled him to the top spot in the four-run aggregate race and pushed his three weeks of earnings in West Texas to $16,102. Most that know rodeo understand San Angelo’s place in tie-down roping. The community hosts the annual Cinch Roping Fiesta, but this year’s rodeo was something special. Three of the top five tie-down ropers have ties to this city of more than 100,000 residents, with locals Joel Harris placing second and Dylan Hancock finishing fifth. Combined, they kept $35,000 in Tom Green County. “(These people) have done a lot for me and that school,” Lewis told The Cowboy Channel’s Hayley Novak. “Casey has done a tremendous thing for me, and he backs me all the way. I appreciate him. “This is a tremendous win.” From Amarillo, Texas, Lewis entered this weekend’s festivities 13th in the race to be the Resistol Tie-Down Roping Rookie of the Year. By the time Friday came to a close, he had moved into the top five in that race. It all came from being the most consistent man in the field over four go-rounds. His fastest run was 7.2, which helped him share the second-round victory with three-time world champion Riley Webb. Lewis wasn’t the only competitor who took advantage of short-round success. Steer wrestler Jesse Brown, a six-time NFR qualifier, won the final round with a 4.2-second run, then won the average title with a four-run cumulative time of 18.3 seconds, more than a second ahead of the runner-up, Cody Devers. World champions Kaleb Driggers and Junior Nogueira utilized their round winning run to claim the average with an 18.7-second cumulative time on four runs. Bull rider Noah Lee rode Pete Carr Pro Rodeo’s Smokey Joe for 93 points to win the bull riding short round, then claimed the rodeo’s crown with it. All-around cowboy Wacey Schalla posted a 91-point ride on J Bar J Rodeo’s Damn Straight to win the final round and aggregate championship. Other winners include breakaway roper Danielle Lowman (7.2 seconds on three runs); saddle bronc rider Chase Brooks (90 on J Bar J’s In The Lou; 176.5 on two); and barrel racer Michelle Alley (43.94 seconds on three runs). San Angelo Stock Show and Rodeo April 3-18 Bareback riding: 1. Leighton Berry, 92 points on Korkow Rodeo’s Tator Tot, $7,128; 2. Cole Reiner, 88.5, $5,465; 3. Luke Thrash, 88, $4,039; 4. Wacey Schalla, 87.5, $2,614; 5. Wyatt Warneke, 87. $1.663; 6. Kade Sonnier, 86.5, $1,188; 7. (tie) Jayco Roper, Cooper Cooke, Bradlee Miller and Clayton Biglow, 86, $416 each. Final round: 1. Wacey Schalla, 91 points on J Bar J Rodeo’s Damn Straight, $1,650; 2. Rocker Steiner, 90.5, $1,250; 3. (tie) Bradlee Miller and Kade Sonnier, 88, $750 each; 5. Jayco Roper, 87.5, $350; 6. Clayton Biglow, 87, $250. Average: 1. Wacey Schalla, 178.5 points on two rides, $7,128; 2. Leighton Berry, 177, $5,465; 3. Rocker Steiner, 176, $4,039; 4. Cole Reiner, 175, $2,614; 5. Kade Sonnier, 174.5, $1,663; 6. (tie) Luke Thrash and Bradlee Miller, $174, $1,069 each; 8. Jayco Roper, 173.5, $713. Steer wrestling: First round: 1. Cimarron Thompson, 3.8 seconds, $4,794; 2. Colin Fox, 4.0, $4,169; 3. (tie) Cody Devers and Jude Leonards, 4.1, $3,231 each; 5. (tie) Riley Duvall, Don Payne and Seth Peterson, 4.2, $1,667 each; 8. Cade Goodman, 4.3, $417. Second round: 1. Chase Crane, 3.6 seconds, $4,794; 2. Colt Honey, 3.8, $4,169; 3. (tie) Jacob Daniell and Ty Erickson, 3.9, $3,231 each; 5. (tie) Quentin Branden and Peter Haas, 4.0, $1,980 each; 7. (tie) Jesse Brown and Kall Mayfield, 4.1, $730 each. Third round: 1. J.D. Struxness, 4.3 seconds, $4,794; 2. Tory Johnson, 4.4, $4,169; 3. (tie) Dalton Massey, Logan Mullin, Laramie Warren and Jacob Daniell, 4.6, $2,605 each; 7. (tie) Tyler Waguespack, Evan Spady, Cimarron Thompson and Tristan Martin, 4.7, $365 each. Final round: 1. Jesse Brown, 4.2 seconds, $1,909; 2. Trace Harris, 4.4, $1,660; 3. J.D. Struxness, 4.6, $1,411; 4. Tyler Waguespack, 5.0, $1,162; 5. Coy Johnston, 5.2, $913; 6. Colt Honey, 5.6, $664; 7. Chase Crane, 5.9, $415; 8. Cody Devers, 6.1, $166. Average: 1, Jesse Brown, 18.3 seconds on four runs, $9,588; 2. Cody Devers, 19.5, $8,337; 3. Tyler Waguespack, 20.4, $7,087; 4. Trace Harris, 20.9, $5,836; 5. (tie) Chase Crane and Colt Honey, 21.2, $3,960 each; 7. (tie) J.D. Struxness and Coy Johnston, 21.6, $1,459 each. Tie-down roping: First round: 1. Ryan Thibodeaux, 8.2 seconds, $4,828; 2. Bodie Mattson, 8.3, $4,199; 3. (tie) Cole Clemons, Joel Harris and Bo Pickett, 8.4, $2,939 each; 6. (tie) Britt Bedke and Hunter Herrin, 8.5, $1,365 each; 8. Brodey Clemons, 8.6, $420.Second round: 1. (tie) Sam Lewis and Riley Webb, 7.2 seconds, $4,513 each; 3. James Mann, 7.5, $3,569; 4. Tuf Cooper, 7.9, $2,939; 5. Ty Harris, 8.0, $2,309; 6. (tie) Beau Cooper, Blane Cox and Sterling Smith, 8.1, $1,050 each. Third round: 1. Cory Solomon, 8.5 seconds, $4,828; 2. (tie) Brodey Clemons, Pax Vogel and Cash Enderli, 8.7, $3,569 each; 5. Richard Newton, 9.0, $2,309; 6. (tie) Trevor Hale, Tom Crouse and Quade Hiatt, 9.1, $1,050 each. Final round: 1. Sam  Continue Reading »

Patrons taking Rooftop Rodeo’s “Behind The Chutes” tour learn the details it takes to produce an event of this magnitude. The tours have been part of Rooftop Rodeo for two decades and are a big part of the experience for visitors. (PHOTO BY MARIE GRIFFIN PHOTOGRAPHY)   Rooftop spectators learn more about the sport behind the chutes ESTES PARK, Colo. – The Wizard of Oz never wanted anyone to see the magic behind the mirror, but rodeo experts in Estes Park think the behind-the-scenes work is fascinating. About 20 years ago, volunteers began their “Behind The Chutes” tours to give spectators a sneak peak about what it takes to produce the award-winning Rooftop Rodeo, set for 7 p.m. Monday, July 6-Saturday, July 11, at Granny May Arena inside the Estes Park Fairgrounds. “We have a tour every night before the performance,” said Ben Vigil, the tour guide. “We start about 5 (p.m.) and try to get out of there by 6:15 so the tractor can do its thing. We just try to inform the people about animal safety and the safety equipment for the bullfighters and the roughstock guys. “We also talk about how the animals are bred to do what they do and how well they’re taken care of out on Cervi’s ranch or wherever they come from. We try to dispel some of the myths that some people have about the care we give these animals.” It’s a great opportunity for many to gain a better understanding of the Western way of life. After paying admission to the rodeo, tickets for the tour are $10 and can be found at https://RooftopRodeo.com. “This was started in about 2005,” said Vigil, who began volunteering for the rodeo in 2002. “Howell Wright’s wife, J’Ann, came up with the idea to start it, and she did it for a couple of years, I think, and then Joy Barnett took it over and raised it up to where it is now. “I’m just trying to keep it at that level she brought it up to. It’s a really inexpensive way for people to learn a lot more about it, and I think they really enjoy getting back there.” Patrons get to walk into the arena and feel the dirt at their feet. They learn about the timed events and the care and preparation it takes to prepare horses for competition. “We go into exactly what the contestants are doing in each of their events,” Vigil said. “Brett Dennis explains the timed events, and we have some fun there, too, We will have some kids go into the timed-event release gate; we’ll have a kid back into the box and let the kid out of the gate, and the other one chases them down. “They get up real close to the bulls and horses in the pens. We’ll get them up on the dancefloor (the bucking chutes’ platform) so they can get a bird’s-eye view of what the contestants are going to see. We also have a bullfighter or somebody like (rodeo clown) Justin Rumford behind the chutes to talk about what they do.” The tours seem to be a catalyst for interest. As the decades roll, more and more people are further removed from Western heritage and agriculture-based living. Volunteers and professionals offer their insights about how rodeo is not only a form of entertainment but is also a world-class competition. “I’d say most of our fan base are people who are visiting Estes Park for that week, and this is the first time a lot of them have ever experienced a rodeo,” Vigil said. “A lot don’t know what rodeo is, and I think they really enjoy getting to be back there and putting their hands on the chutes and being within a few feet of the animals.” It’s another opportunity Rooftop Rodeo has made for people to gain a better understanding of the Old West and how it continues to thrive through rodeo.   Gates for Rooftop Rodeo open at 5 p.m. Monday, July 6-Saturday, July 11, with the preshow beginning at 6:30 p.m. and the rodeo beginning at 7 p.m. For more information about Rooftop Rodeo, which is a Town of Estes Park signature event, or to order tickets online, log on to www.RooftopRodeo.com. Other ticket inquiries may be made by contacting the Town of Estes Park Events office at events@estes.org or (970) 586-6104.